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corduroy_blazer wrote:
it's no fucking miracle. the guy is an excellent pilot with all sorts of training in for all sorts of conditions. he's fucking awesome and brave and heroic, etc, but there's no miracle involved here.
God landed that plane.
... or God guided that pilot's hands.
... or God gave that pilot the skills to land that plane.
... or God put that talented pilot in the cockpit of the plane that was going to crash.
Fuck you, God. All you did was fling a bird into the engine. That fuckin' pilot cleaned up your mess!
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After 'Miracle on the Hudson,' Pilot Who Became Instant Hero Is Honored
After guiding a crippled US Airways jet into the Hudson River and saving all 155 people aboard — a feat many were calling a miracle — the pilot at the helm became an instant hero.
it's no fucking miracle. the guy is an excellent pilot with all sorts of training in for all sorts of conditions. he's fucking awesome and brave and heroic, etc, but there's no miracle involved here.
come on CB, it's just an expression you know it, not literally an act of god. well, that's the way Europeans would read that, whether they're godists or not.. as a very lucky escape (and the pilot in part made his own luck). But really, it's the way it's meant, otherwise they wouldn't call the pilot a hero.. if it's a miracle in the literal sense, then he's no hero since god did the work
thodoks wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Chloe, if you fly that much you're in faaar more danger from the amount of radiation you're being exposed to. A long haul flight is the same as something like getting 10 x-rays. Female Cabin crew suffer a far higher rate of breast cancer than other professions. Not fun.
I'm davey downer today, sorry.
i have never heard this, and it's quite interesting. links? sources?
corduroy_blazer wrote:
it's no fucking miracle. the guy is an excellent pilot with all sorts of training in for all sorts of conditions. he's fucking awesome and brave and heroic, etc, but there's no miracle involved here.
wutevr. i heard the virgin mary appeared in the splash and the wake of the crash.
you've just got to think with your heart a little harder, friend.
Dime is notoriously afraid of flying
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We are continually exposed to dose equivalent rates of about 6 to 12 uSv per day at sea-level due to GCR and radiation from the ground which is dependent on our location, as well as radiation from within our own bodies. Thus a two-hour flight at conventional altitudes (20,000 - 40,000 ft) may approximately double one's radiation dose for the day.
There's a handy table included.
For reference, a chest x-ray would expose you to about 60 microsieverts.
According to the above link, a long haul flight of 12 hours would provide you the equivalent dosage of an x-ray. However, according to the NOAA site, at elevated solar radiation levels, it would be closer to about 2 chest x-rays.
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well, I've only had 2 x-rays in my enire life, and neither were chest one (jaws for wisdom thooth, and knee couple of months ago)... so I can make a few flights (plus I smoked for 15 years, though stopped now, so really moot point!)
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Yeah, that landing wasn't a miracle. I don't even know if it was unlikely. Commercial pilots are very talented individuals have been trained and tested year after year so that when this kind of situation happens, they can stay calm and rely on their training. I don't want to talk away from the pilot. I certainly would have peed my pants, but he didn't need an angel to put that plane down in one piece.
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Back in 2004, the New York Senator saw to it that a $200,000 earmark went to GeesePeace. Now, this is an animal rights group that devotes itself to saving Canada geese through non-lethal methods. Now, this was Schumer's attempt to solve the problem of overpopulation of geese, some of which live on Riker's Island. That's directly in the flight path of La Guardia airport. Now, the perilous result of this plan was seen on Thursday when the same breed of geese, Canada geese, downed US Airways flight 1549. Now, maybe our lawmakers should focus on preventing such tragedies rather than empowering groups that seem to care more about the birds than the safety of Americans.
... But I'm also not into coincidence theories, either.
I'm VERY troubled by yesterday's ditching of Flight 1549. It doesn't make sense to me.
Consider these points:
- Apparently, a flock of birds knocked out two engines but didn't leave an impact on the nose (as you know much more flimsy than engines).
- This picture is heavily Photoshopped, when you zoom in, you see all sorts of cut and paste artwork... even the USAir logo is pasted onto the plane. Why?
Also in this picture are dozens and dozens of "survivors"... it's hard to count because the picture is so fuzzy and distant (a common theme... distant and fuzzy pics). How can more than 20 people stand on a wing and not collapse it?
- Where are the closeup pictures... if you watch any of the coverage yesterday, all of the camera angles were distant shots... even with the media within hundreds of yards of the scene. Why?
- As of this moment, I've yet to see a single video of the ditching... not one, And I've searched everywhere (including YouTube) -- how can this be? Everyone seems to have a cell phone these days... especially in New York. What about CCTV cameras from the Port Authority... someone has to have a video of this, yet we see nothing. Why?
- One pilot (who if I remember posted here in this thread) lived near the crash scene admits he didn't see the plane ditch... didn't hear the plane ditch, but then saw the plane floating. Odd don't you think?
- The only witnesses of the actual ditching were members of the media (who as you know cover all sorts of things up)... example: "I just thought, 'Why is it so low?' And, splash, it hit the water," said witness Barbara Sambriski, a researcher at The Associated Press.
- The media is reporting, "It appears to be the first time that a large commercial jet liner ever has made a successful controlled landing into a body of water." Another coincidence. A "Miracle" is the media mantra about this. Can this plane really survive a ditching without nearly a scratch... really?
I could go on and on with minor stuff, but I hope you get my drift.
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FloydTheBarber wrote:
But there was an airplane in the river. How on earth did it get there if not from the sky?
I read most of the forum and it's pretty funny how the pilots lambasted this confused conspiracy theorist who refused to capitulate under all kinds of evidence and pilot testimony.
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I've never been to New York, how do I even know there's a Hudson River? I've never seen it. Fuck you people for making this shit up.
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... But I'm also not into coincidence theories, either.
I'm VERY troubled by yesterday's ditching of Flight 1549. It doesn't make sense to me.
Consider these points:
- Apparently, a flock of birds knocked out two engines but didn't leave an impact on the nose (as you know much more flimsy than engines).
- This picture is heavily Photoshopped, when you zoom in, you see all sorts of cut and paste artwork... even the USAir logo is pasted onto the plane. Why?
Also in this picture are dozens and dozens of "survivors"... it's hard to count because the picture is so fuzzy and distant (a common theme... distant and fuzzy pics). How can more than 20 people stand on a wing and not collapse it?
- Where are the closeup pictures... if you watch any of the coverage yesterday, all of the camera angles were distant shots... even with the media within hundreds of yards of the scene. Why?
- As of this moment, I've yet to see a single video of the ditching... not one, And I've searched everywhere (including YouTube) -- how can this be? Everyone seems to have a cell phone these days... especially in New York. What about CCTV cameras from the Port Authority... someone has to have a video of this, yet we see nothing. Why?
- One pilot (who if I remember posted here in this thread) lived near the crash scene admits he didn't see the plane ditch... didn't hear the plane ditch, but then saw the plane floating. Odd don't you think?
- The only witnesses of the actual ditching were members of the media (who as you know cover all sorts of things up)... example: "I just thought, 'Why is it so low?' And, splash, it hit the water," said witness Barbara Sambriski, a researcher at The Associated Press.
- The media is reporting, "It appears to be the first time that a large commercial jet liner ever has made a successful controlled landing into a body of water." Another coincidence. A "Miracle" is the media mantra about this. Can this plane really survive a ditching without nearly a scratch... really?
I could go on and on with minor stuff, but I hope you get my drift.
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I thought you actually made this stuff up as a joke. I thought it was hilarious reading it. I didn't realize it came from an actual website.
I like how they all start with "I'm not a conspiracy theorist but...
Classic. Thanks.
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Some Guy wrote:
You're right, and what's even more amazing was that no one was able to get video of Bush and Cheney towing that plane down the Hudson to get it in place! And I bet all of those "survivors" were the same "people" that were on the Navy ship that shot down TWA 800, and were also on the United 93 flight that landed Cleveland!
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... But I'm also not into coincidence theories, either.
I'm VERY troubled by yesterday's ditching of Flight 1549. It doesn't make sense to me.
Consider these points:
- Apparently, a flock of birds knocked out two engines but didn't leave an impact on the nose (as you know much more flimsy than engines).
- This picture is heavily Photoshopped, when you zoom in, you see all sorts of cut and paste artwork... even the USAir logo is pasted onto the plane. Why?
Also in this picture are dozens and dozens of "survivors"... it's hard to count because the picture is so fuzzy and distant (a common theme... distant and fuzzy pics). How can more than 20 people stand on a wing and not collapse it?
- Where are the closeup pictures... if you watch any of the coverage yesterday, all of the camera angles were distant shots... even with the media within hundreds of yards of the scene. Why?
- As of this moment, I've yet to see a single video of the ditching... not one, And I've searched everywhere (including YouTube) -- how can this be? Everyone seems to have a cell phone these days... especially in New York. What about CCTV cameras from the Port Authority... someone has to have a video of this, yet we see nothing. Why?
- One pilot (who if I remember posted here in this thread) lived near the crash scene admits he didn't see the plane ditch... didn't hear the plane ditch, but then saw the plane floating. Odd don't you think?
- The only witnesses of the actual ditching were members of the media (who as you know cover all sorts of things up)... example: "I just thought, 'Why is it so low?' And, splash, it hit the water," said witness Barbara Sambriski, a researcher at The Associated Press.
- The media is reporting, "It appears to be the first time that a large commercial jet liner ever has made a successful controlled landing into a body of water." Another coincidence. A "Miracle" is the media mantra about this. Can this plane really survive a ditching without nearly a scratch... really?
I could go on and on with minor stuff, but I hope you get my drift.
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cnn.com posted video of the plane landing in the water from multiple angles....
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